Legislature(2003 - 2004)

06/24/2004 02:05 PM House FIN

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                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                       June 24, 2004                                                                                            
                         2:05 P.M.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
TAPE HFC 04 - 2, Side A                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Williams called the House  Finance Committee meeting                                                                   
to order at 2:05 P.M.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative John Harris, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Bill Williams, Co-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Kevin Meyer, Vice-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Mike Chenault                                                                                                    
Representative Eric Croft                                                                                                       
Representative Hugh Fate                                                                                                        
Representative Richard Foster                                                                                                   
Representative Mike Hawker                                                                                                      
Representative Reggie Joule                                                                                                     
Representative Carl Moses                                                                                                       
Representative Bill Stoltze                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Ethan  Berkowitz;  Representative  Les  Gara;                                                                   
Representative   Carl  Gatto;   Representative  Kelly   Wolf;                                                                   
Representative    Ralph   Samuels;    Representative    Nancy                                                                   
Dahlstrom; Representative  Paul Seaton; Representative  David                                                                   
Guttenberg; Cheryl  Frasca, Director, Division  of Management                                                                   
& Budget,  Office of  the Governor;  Karleen Jackson,  Deputy                                                                   
Commissioner,  Department  of  Health  and  Social  Services;                                                                   
Johana Bales,  Revenue Auditor,  Tax Division, Department  of                                                                   
Revenue; Joel Gilbertson, Commissioner,  Department of Health                                                                   
& Social Services;                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT VIA TELECONFERENCE                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SB 1001   An Act relating to taxes  on cigarettes and tobacco                                                                   
          products,   to  tax   stamps   on  cigarettes,   to                                                                   
          forfeiture  of cigarettes and  of property  used in                                                                   
          the  manufacture,  transportation,  possession,  or                                                                   
          sale  of unstamped  cigarettes,  to accounting  for                                                                   
          and use  of part of the proceeds of  the additional                                                                   
          cigarette tax, and to  licenses and licensees under                                                                   
          the   Cigarette  Tax   Act;   relating  to   unfair                                                                   
          cigarette  sales; and  providing  for an  effective                                                                   
          date.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
          HCS CS SB 1001 (FIN) was REPORTED out of Committee                                                                    
          with a "no recommendation" and with a zero fiscal                                                                     
          note by the House Finance Committee.                                                                                  
SENATE BILL NO. 1001                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     An  Act relating  to  taxes  on cigarettes  and  tobacco                                                                   
     products, to tax stamps on  cigarettes, to forfeiture of                                                                   
     cigarettes  and  of property  used  in the  manufacture,                                                                   
     transportation,   possession,  or   sale  of   unstamped                                                                   
     cigarettes,  to accounting  for and use  of part  of the                                                                   
     proceeds  of  the  additional   cigarette  tax,  and  to                                                                   
     licenses  and licensees  under  the  Cigarette Tax  Act;                                                                   
     relating  to unfair cigarette  sales; and providing  for                                                                   
     an effective date.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Harris  MOVED  to  ADOPT SB  1001  as  the  working                                                                   
document. There being NO OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Harris MOVED  to ADOPT  23-GS2116\W  [HCS CSSB  368                                                                   
(FIN)] as a committee substitute  for SB 1001. There being NO                                                                   
OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Chenault  MOVED  to ADOPT  Amendment  1:  23-                                                                   
GS2115\IA.1, dated 5/9/04. He  explained that adoption of the                                                                   
tobacco  stamp legislation,  adopted  in 2002,  inadvertently                                                                   
disallowed the  sellers to ship  cigarettes to  an individual                                                                   
in  rural Alaska  or  other areas  in  Alaska. The  amendment                                                                   
would  allow  these  businesses  to continue  to  ship  taxed                                                                   
cigarettes to individuals in rural and other areas.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Joule  noted  the  need to  assure  that  the                                                                   
individual [receiving the cigarettes] is an adult.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Chenault  agreed and MOVED to  AMEND Amendment                                                                   
1: insert  "19 years of age  or older" after  "individual" on                                                                   
page 1, line 15; and on line 3,  page 3, change the effective                                                                   
date to  July 1, 2004. He  explained that the  2004 effective                                                                   
date would  allow business,  which have  not been allowed  to                                                                   
continue  the  business  of shipping  cigarettes,  to  resume                                                                   
their business.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
JOHANA  BALES, PROGRAM  MANAGER, CIGARETTE  AND TOBACCO  TAX,                                                                   
TAX DIVISION,  DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE, explained  that section                                                                   
35 would  provide for an  immediate effective date  and noted                                                                   
that section 36 would not apply.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
In response to a question by Representative  Croft, Ms. Bales                                                                   
felt  that   a  delayed   date  of   January  1,  2005   [for                                                                   
implementation of the tax increase] would be appropriate.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Chenault  MOVED  to AMEND  the  Amendment-to-                                                                   
Amendment 1 to  delete section 36. There being  NO OBJECTION,                                                                   
it was so ordered.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
There being  NO OBJECTION, the  amendment to Amendment  1 was                                                                   
adopted as amended:  insert "19 years of age  or older" after                                                                   
"individual"  on page 1,  line 15; and  delete section  36 on                                                                   
page 3, line 3. There being NO  OBJECTION, the main motion to                                                                   
adopt Amendment 1 was carried.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Croft  questioned the  appropriate  effective                                                                   
date and  suggested that  it should be  January 1,  2005. Ms.                                                                   
Bales agreed.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Harris  MOVED  to ADOPT  Amendment  2:  change  the                                                                   
effective date on  page 15, line 3 of the  previously adopted                                                                   
committee  substitute  to January  1,  2005.  There being  NO                                                                   
OBJECTION, it was so ordered.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative Foster  MOVED to ADOPT Amendment  3.  Co-Chair                                                                   
Williams OBJECTED.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  NORM  ROKEBERG,  spoke  to  Amendment  3.  He                                                                   
explained   that  Amendment   3   would  prohibit   municipal                                                                   
governments  and other political  subdivisions from  enacting                                                                   
additional  taxes  on  tobacco   products.  Communities  that                                                                   
currently  have   a  tobacco   tax  (Anchorage,   Juneau  and                                                                   
Fairbanks) could retain the tax.  State government would have                                                                   
the sole  authority to  make adjustments  in the taxation  of                                                                   
tobacco  products.  Representative Rokeberg  maintained  that                                                                   
this  would leave  the authority  for  taxation within  state                                                                   
government  and  discourage differences  in  pricing  between                                                                   
political subdivisions.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Williams spoke against the amendment.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Meyer spoke  against  the amendment.  He did  not                                                                   
think  the amendment  would be  beneficial  to Anchorage  and                                                                   
noted that it would be a state mandate.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
A roll call vote was taken on the motion.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
IN FAVOR: Foster                                                                                                                
OPPOSED:  Hawker,   Joule,  Meyer,  Moses,   Stoltze,  Croft,                                                                   
          Harris, Williams                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Chenault was absent from the vote.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
The MOTION FAILED (1-9).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Foster MOVED to report CSSB 1001 out of                                                                          
Committee with the accompanying zero fiscal notes.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
HCS CS SB 1001 (FIN) was REPORTED out of Committee with "no                                                                     
recommendation" and with a zero fiscal note by the House                                                                        
Finance Committee.                                                                                                              
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 2:36 PM                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

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